Abstract
This conversation deals with basic issues of historical knowledge, such as the nature of historical reality, the distinction between fact and event, the social function of historical knowledge, and the utility of 'methodology' in the study of history, as understood by Hayden White. It also addresses the problem of distinguishing between methods and conventions in historical research. White presents his idea of a 'progressive history' and advocates 'practical' history over a contemplative approach to the past. He also expresses his views on the ideological aspect of historical studies, the importance of treating the present as history, and the pedagogical as against the 'research' aspect of historiography.